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	<title>Comments on: Mormon Leader Calls Kettle Black</title>
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	<description>Collisions between faith and reason in Utah</description>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it so important that same gender couples get to call their unions &quot;marriage&quot;?  Seems that just because people have been in same gender relationships over the course of the history of the world doesn&#039;t make it right.  Also, what is your goal here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it so important that same gender couples get to call their unions &#8220;marriage&#8221;?  Seems that just because people have been in same gender relationships over the course of the history of the world doesn&#8217;t make it right.  Also, what is your goal here?</p>
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		<title>By: Moscar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some body should organize a protest in front of his office, until he apologyzes for such an stupid analogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some body should organize a protest in front of his office, until he apologyzes for such an stupid analogy.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;I&#8217;m rubber and you&#8217;re glue!&#8221; &#124; Main Street Plaza</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;I&#8217;m rubber and you&#8217;re glue!&#8221; &#124; Main Street Plaza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New Low in His Crusade Against Teh Gays, and Satan, and Reality, Irony, thy name is Dallin H. Oaks, Mormon Leader Calls Kettle Black, and especially Moroni&#8217;s Trumpet: We Shall [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] New Low in His Crusade Against Teh Gays, and Satan, and Reality, Irony, thy name is Dallin H. Oaks, Mormon Leader Calls Kettle Black, and especially Moroni&#8217;s Trumpet: We Shall [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can cry &quot;civil rights violation&quot; all we want, but it&#039;s water off the Mormon duck&#039;s back because Oaks and his supports do not concede that genderless marriage is a civil right.  To them marriage is by definition man/woman.  Any other relationship is simply not &quot;marriage&quot;, ipso facto.  So while they may concede a &quot;civil right&quot; to marriage, that concession means nothing to marriage equality advocates because there is no agreement on the definition.

Only after the disputing parties agree on how to define their terms can there be progress in this discussion.  Until then, we can shout &quot;civil rights&quot; till the cows come home and it will make no difference to most Mormons.  They must either be persuaded that marriage is a civil right regardless of gender, or else some other argument must be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can cry &#8220;civil rights violation&#8221; all we want, but it&#8217;s water off the Mormon duck&#8217;s back because Oaks and his supports do not concede that genderless marriage is a civil right.  To them marriage is by definition man/woman.  Any other relationship is simply not &#8220;marriage&#8221;, ipso facto.  So while they may concede a &#8220;civil right&#8221; to marriage, that concession means nothing to marriage equality advocates because there is no agreement on the definition.</p>
<p>Only after the disputing parties agree on how to define their terms can there be progress in this discussion.  Until then, we can shout &#8220;civil rights&#8221; till the cows come home and it will make no difference to most Mormons.  They must either be persuaded that marriage is a civil right regardless of gender, or else some other argument must be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Urban Koda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urban Koda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself!

Actually I tried and proved the point - much better job than I did, and I didn&#039;t even catch the irony of the address being delivered as a school names for Mr. Young.

AWESOME!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself!</p>
<p>Actually I tried and proved the point &#8211; much better job than I did, and I didn&#8217;t even catch the irony of the address being delivered as a school names for Mr. Young.</p>
<p>AWESOME!!</p>
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